Waaaaat?
References please, court documents, anything provable?
i heard several stories of the watchtower taking in loans and donations given by rich witnesses who have fallen on to hard times and asked for the money back and the watchtower won't return the money.
have you ever heard of the watchtower only paying the money back on "conditional loans" once legal experts get invovled?
one of the stories that is around is a family donated a large chunk of their nest-egg to the watchtower and the husband got sick and the branch refused to contact him when he asked for his conditional donation back, would the watchtower screw people out of their money?
Waaaaat?
References please, court documents, anything provable?
glad to see the forum is going strong, lots of new names and stories......and it has only been a couple of months!.
the wt really has no chance in such a world of free and accessible information.
keep fighting guys, the freedom once you are loose of the governing body is awesome, you will be amazed how long you ignored the stench off bullshit as your ability to smell it returns.. and on that note ;) x. .
Good analogy snare, the stench is indeed strong..
glad you keep checking in!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtkhwfsnq7o&list=uuz1w0ll081jjiycjb298pow.
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Interesting stuff. What was the point? I mean that inquisitively not disrespectfully, what was the end product? An article in a newspaper? Magazine?
I'm presuming some flavour of born again ?
Seems like a good mix. A healthy dose of religious fervour and a load of heavy weaponry. What could possibly go wrong?
do you check this site, daily?.
do you post very much?.
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You and me both bruja! Coupla times a day, I does get addictive though..
a friend of mine (who is waking up), recently had the elders do a sheep herding visit.. they were browbeating my friend about attending meetings.
my friend has been ill and unable to attend anyway.. what response would you give to this garbage?.
if we were in a house and it was on fire and we couldnt walk we would have to crawl.. an example of a sister with an iron lung was brought up to show that if shes in this condition, we need to examine ourselves.
The elder feels that God saved him personally, that otherwise he wouldn't be alive? I'd ask him if he thought it was down to prayer that God acted in his behalf. If so, then does he think the 26 witnesses that were sheltering IN A KINGDOM HALL in the Philippines when the tsunami hit, were praying? Cos they all perished. Why would God answer his prayer but not theirs?
And according to witness theology god has handed the world over to satan to see if he can do a better job and to answer the question raised in job's time about serving only cos God has put a hedge around his worshippers.
So how COULD God Possibly act in ANY way without scuppering that arrangement?
man wanted for setting fire at kingdom hall.
a kingdom hall was set on fire in st. louis last saturday .the kingdom hall is located in the 2400 block of grand avenue,around 6:15 a.m. saturday morning.. police informed local news agencies and news 4 that the mans facial characteristics were captured on camera .the man is described as white with beard and moustache .the man appears wearing green jacket and coveralls on camera.. if you xhave any updates on this story or live around the area please let me know.
man wanted for setting fire at kingdom hall.
Oh great, another reason for them to keep hating beards...
for purely informational purposes, i am planning a visit to a local kingdom hall.
it has been years since i've set foot in one and i need to know what the current terminology is so i don't stick out like a sore thumb.
what are the studying?
Yep, wot they said.. ^^^^^
Just ask how the ministry is going, deflect questions!
Nick cave fan?
this is my first post on here so bear with me.
currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.
i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.
Well done for bravely taking the first step towards the rest of your life. There's some REALLY good advice, logic, and reasoning up there. I can add nothing but to say that I've been where you are, I'm still an active witness, but I no longer believe it's the 'truth'.
ALLOW YOURSELF TIME.
Research.
Have a listen to 'dogma debate' podcast, you'll soon discover that not only have we been fed very selective information over the years (all 'wordly' people are wicked amoral drunkards that would steal a bible to hit a baby with) but that atheists, other Christians, Muslims, have community and morals JUST as good, if not better, than JW's.
let me clarify, when i say aliens, i don't mean shiny helmeted spaceship dwelling anal probers.
(although i could be proved wrong).
if any alien lifeform was found on mars or another planet or even a comet, be it tiny bacteria or even some form of non carbon based life form, would that not destroy religions grip on mankind?
I think keyser soze hit the nail on the head with his simple statement. . Thanks keyser!
We're taught to accept scientists when they agree with whatever spin is put on some scripture or other, but ignore them as clearly part of Satan's world when they say ANYTHING contradictory to the bible. They'd simply be dismissed as being mistaken / lying.
Which makes me want to start another thread..........